Kipling here, from Ecover. I saw your post and thought I might correct a few misinterpretations of our ingredients for you and your readers:
• Sodium citrate (salt), Not entirely correct; “salt” is commonly used to indicate sodium chloride (i.e. table salt) and although sodium citrate is a kind of salt, writing “a salt” instead of “salt” would be more technically correct
• Sodium Carbonate Peroxide - also commonly known as Sodium Percarbonate
• Sodium Carbonate- Sodium ash
• Disodium Disilicate: yes, it can cause serious harm to the eyes (just the same as the sodium silicate in the Attitude brand listed further down in the post) because it is quite alkaline and it is this alkalinity which helps dissolve residual fats
• Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda)
• Sodium Poly Asparaginate (wha?? can't find what that is) It’s actually a fully biodegradable alternative to commonly used ingredients which prevent the formation of scale crystals and which are not at all biodegradable
• Tetra Acetyl Ethylene Diamine- like vinegar, but with an extra atom of oxygen which is responsible for the bleaching action - due to the reaction between the hydrogen peroxide contained within the sodium percarbonate and this ingredient; Tetra Acetyl Ethylene Diamine is a bleach activator and does not have any oxidizing properties of itself
• Iso-Octyl Glucoside (ummm..) This is actually a sugar-based wetting agent which prevents water settling on the dishes as droplets which, after they’ve dried, would leave stains.
• D-glucitol (Sorbitan Tristearate...) not exactly - it’s a sort of sugar which helps in pressing the tablet and makes it dissolve quickly when being used
• Hydrogenated Rapeseed Oil-It’s actually used as a kind of natural solvent which helps dissolve fatty residues; it also functions to keep the tablet’s structural integrity during transport (solid at room temperature, but liquid when used in a dishwasher)
• Parfum-All the molecules used in our perfumes are the same as found in nature (min. 90% from natural sources, max. 10% from synthetic sources
• Glycerin - A by-product of turning vegetable oils into natural soap and is used both as natural solvent and to keep the tablet whole during transport
• Amylase- It’s an enzyme which brakes down starch. It is classified as such because people can develop sensitivities or allergies to the product when it’s inhaled - which is highly unlikely in the case of the tablets
• Subtilisin- Same as above, but this enzyme breaks down proteins
• Limonene- It is also the main component of the zest of citrus fruits, so no risk of long term exposure there… Limonene is a known allergen, which is why it’s explicitly mentioned on the box
• Sodium Gluconate - This is the sodium salt of a common amino acid and it is used to bind calcium which otherwise would turn into scale
I would also like to mention that, the ingredients disclosed by Ecover are the actual ingredients rather than the generic terms often given for cleaning products. While this is not required by law, it is an extra step we take to maintain transparency.
I hope this clears things up for everyone!
As eco-people we spend so much time trying to wade through the greenwashing poop to figure out what is truly Earth friendly and what is just some wool and bull.
I am super pleased to see a quick and informative response! The critical thinker in me (oh university, you have forever warped my trust) keeps piping up this tiny voice- "third party, third party!"... lol, but I think that would be stepping up the paranoia un petit peu.
There you have it Eco-yogi/ni's! Rant, and you shall have clarifications :) Again, many thanks Kipling!
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I love Ecover! And it was great that they posted on your blog.
ReplyDeleteIt's also nice that you now how all that info on your blog for people to easily find.
I still don't understand what half that stuff is (never did well in science/chem), but it is really cool that you got some feedback from the company! Go, Lisa!!
ReplyDeleteI love your blog. Can't wait till I have some time to explore some of the older posts too!'
ReplyDeleteLisa: yes- i thought Ecover products worked really well and it was wonderful to see how prompt and informative their response was!
ReplyDeleteGreenspell: haha- Go Me!! lol. Yup, I thought it was kinda cool too!
Catfish: Thank you! Same goes for me with your blog :)
Although it is nice that Ecover responded you have to really read into what they said. I don't mean to knock them, but if you look at their response on iso-octyl glucoside they call it a sugar-based wetting agent. The glucoside part of this ingredient is sugar-based, but what about the iso-octyl portion? A long internet search determined that this is likely from iso-octyl alcohol, aka 2-ethyl hexanol, which is synthesized from propylene gas. The propylene gas is derived directly from petroleum. Now it doesn't look so natural.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous: I totally agree. Like other comments left here: I also remain weary with some of the scientific names and not being clear.
ReplyDeletewhat I think is sad is that the consumer is now forced to become chemists as we can no longer trust big corporations to be truthful or upfront.
I personally don't use Ecover products.... but they have a good point in that some other cleaning products also list a more generic term for some of their ingredients. made me wonder.
I found your blog, whilst doing the same, as since having a dishwasher my eczema has gotten bad, my sons chest is bad. And our plates are wrecked.
ReplyDeleteThe second ingredient Sodium pecarbonate is a drug given to me with erectile dysfunction. And there are so many contraindications.
I also agree with Anonymus, and found Ecover's response to be patronising. And they didn't really explain anything.
Anyway, after this, we are getting rid of our dishwasher.