tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post6865279179016120529..comments2024-03-25T16:24:52.850-03:00Comments on Eco Yogini: Water Bottles; Eco and EthicsEco Yoginihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10693080137196812405noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-21509879438575489432011-10-06T19:53:08.440-03:002011-10-06T19:53:08.440-03:00Hi Anonymous (Shane :) ): thank you for the clarif...Hi Anonymous (Shane :) ): thank you for the clarification. You're right, it could have been simply calcium deposits, although it was off putting.<br /><br />I will say this about manufacturing, consumerism and expectations: As a consumer, I really do not appreciate being manipulated or mislead. I want the information- and if a company claims that they are environmentally friendly, AND I'm going to invest my money into their company, supporting their business, product and manufacturing practices, I want to make an informed decision.<br /><br />I don't think it means as consumers we have to simply accept the status quo as "oh fine, this is good enough" when it clearly can still be improved upon. I truly feel that unless we are informed and pressure companies (by either purchasing alternatives or voicing our concerns) they won't strive to produce cleaner, greener products.<br /><br />As a result, I did not buy an aluminum water bottle. I purchased both water bottles (for myself and my husband) as well as my coffee thermos from Klean Kanteen. I feel like it was the right choice from the information I was able to gather.<br /><br />It actually wasn't the chemistry per se that annoyed me, but the fact that consumers are left to dig and research on their own, the companies themselves taking steps to hide their manufacturing and product information behind complicated chemistry, science speak. Not everyone has a university education (hence the tone of this post, I try to make my posts as accessible as possible).<br /><br />You're right though- chemistry isn't all that scary :)Eco Yoginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693080137196812405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-25206497310239821712011-10-06T19:44:38.536-03:002011-10-06T19:44:38.536-03:00EDIT: Vinegar is acidic, not alkaline. Don't k...EDIT: Vinegar is acidic, not alkaline. Don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-71257639127751452992011-10-06T19:32:42.456-03:002011-10-06T19:32:42.456-03:00So I know this was old, but sheesh. I just had to ...So I know this was old, but sheesh. I just had to comment.<br /><br />That white buildup in water bottles? No, it's not some crazy chemical that some evil corporation has been secretly putting in your water. It's CALCIUM. Water is only 100% pure when it's distilled in a laboratory through extensive processes. Otherwise, it always has traces of many different minerals and other substances in it that are naturally occurring, especially in groundwater, which is likely where yours came from. Calcium and other mineral content is what makes water "hard" or "soft" - water softeners only serve to remove a portion of these minerals, many of which are actually good for you. Take a look at your showerhead or the underside of your faucet - chances are there are calcium deposits there, too. The calcium builds up on metals through chemical reactions, and by using vinegar, an alkaline substance, you can weaken those bonds and clean the water bottle out.<br /><br />See, just because chemistry is involved doesn't make it "sketchy." SIGG isn't "full of poop" - they know what they're talking about. And if you really are concerned about their liners being sprayed on at "extreme temperatures," I would invite you to investigate the process of mining, smelting, refining, and casting aluminum (or any metal, for that matter). Not only are there some pretty high temperatures used there, but a large number of actually toxic heavy metals must be removed. Do you really think they always get 100% of them out?<br /><br />Such a skepticism of manufactured goods, if truly and completely adopted, would result in one never buying anything. Some things simply have to be manufactured through a process that isn't necessarily as "green" as you would like, and you either have to accept that and buy them anyway or discontinue living within modern civilization.<br /><br />I don't have an account, but I can be reached at shanehughes314 -at- gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-61841232163412299542009-04-03T20:46:00.000-03:002009-04-03T20:46:00.000-03:00The mineral deposits could easily have come from t...The mineral deposits could easily have come from the water that is put into the bottle...if you don't filter your water, it's likely that it has loads of chemicals in it...yum, right?<BR/><BR/>We had this problem with our dishwasher in California...the dishes always came out with a milky residue that my dad also recommended vinegar to get rid of. *Sigh* Can't really filter the dishwashing water!ChasingOmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06887407806332011743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-55193509351154683632009-03-05T13:12:00.000-04:002009-03-05T13:12:00.000-04:00yeah, earthlust is way sexy...yeah, earthlust is way sexy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-84747907965218305062009-03-04T21:57:00.000-04:002009-03-04T21:57:00.000-04:00What a nice writeup of so many water issues.I'm a ...What a nice writeup of so many water issues.<BR/><BR/>I'm a retailer that sells Klean Kanteen and other stainless steel bottles. We are super excited about EarthLust bottles which will be here any day now. They are 100% surgical grade stainless steel but covered (eco friendly paint) outside with beautiful nature inspired designs. We will have them available for sale at http://www.bayinghound.com/earthlust.html as soon as they are in house.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00110389997672888522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-66517686659806556922009-03-04T18:14:00.000-04:002009-03-04T18:14:00.000-04:00Hi Stephanie! I'm glad you enjoyed the post :) I a...Hi Stephanie! I'm glad you enjoyed the post :) I also googled Lulu- and couldn't seem to find any info on what they use in their lining- big surprise since Lululemon is such a huge corporation filled with greenwashing... ahem. lol, anyhoo- BUT I did check out the hyperlink to Mysigg.com and they have a section re: mineral deposits and here's what they say: <BR/><BR/>There Are Spots In My SIGG and I Only Use It For Water! These are called mineral deposits. To remove them, fill your clean dry SIGG bottle with Distilled White Vinegar and let soak for 24 hours, then rinse with warm water and 1 TBSP of Baking Soda, then let air dry. Repeat for stubborn mineral deposits.<BR/><BR/>personally I think it's a load of poop, and these deposits are SKETCHY. But it looks like the aluminum wasn't exposed- so you are good to go. You might want to consider a stainless steel though, especially with Ethan's point- (ps- your paintings are BEAUTIFUL!!! I love love LOVE the nature "yes" tress :) )<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the info Ethan :) It makes sense that aluminum is more susceptible to dents- which would chip the inner lining. I still don't get how they can extract the aluminum from the baked on lining to recycle though...Eco Yoginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693080137196812405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-42728490262045028212009-03-04T17:34:00.000-04:002009-03-04T17:34:00.000-04:00I grabbed a friends beat up old Sigg and shined a ...I grabbed a friends beat up old Sigg and shined a light inside to see what it looked like in there (her bottle was pretty old, 5+ years she thought). What I saw was not pretty, I think the dents on the outside had created little failures of the liner inside, you could see it flaked in places. So basically at that point it has to be recycled, because it was exposing aluminum to whatever is inside (we smashed it flat like a can). I gave her an extra Klean Kanteen (I prefer the non-painted original version) so she should be good to go for at least a couple of decades!EthanPDXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13343384220058651450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2965370542440002490.post-23493846541234576072009-03-04T13:09:00.000-04:002009-03-04T13:09:00.000-04:00this is fantastic. thank you for posting! i was ...this is fantastic. thank you for posting! i was just googling "mineral deposits" or "corrosion" on my aluminum water bottle as i bought one from Lululemon (Om Water bottle) that is like Sigg - sprayed on lining. however, after 3 months of use, i happened to look inside and there were little and large circles of white deposits everywhere!!! i use this bottle EVERY day and often have my water sitting in it the entire day and just refilling it and then washing it out on the last day. <BR/><BR/>i can only assume i was getting huge toxins from the aluminum as the lining seemed to have worn off. what do you think?Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13184900480050951698noreply@blogger.com